The Forever Recession
Sep. 29th, 2011 11:37 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
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This guy sees pretty clearly where we are headed....or at least, I share in his delusion.
This guy sees pretty clearly where we are headed....or at least, I share in his delusion.
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Date: 2011-09-29 08:54 pm (UTC)Thanks!
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Date: 2011-09-29 08:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-30 03:11 pm (UTC)Where I disagree is that it isn't really being replaced with anything in particular. In order for the "artist" to have a standard of living, someone has to purchase their works. In order for the blogger to get by, they have to have an audience base. I am just not seeing those things springing up to the degrees necessary.
Part of the problem is that all the art in the world does not heal the sick. All the blogs in history will never produce 1 meal. The western world is caught up in non-productive activities.
This shows up a lot wherever people talk about "race to the bottom". Which would you prefer? A) Having a risky job that takes 5 years off your lifespan on average, while providing you with enough money to eat reasonably well, live under a roof in a heated building, and have basic medical care. Or B) Starving to death on the streets?
That decision is being made at the national scale, those nations that are choosing A) are having a great deal of gains in their human condition. Those that are choosing *not* to "race to the bottom" are losing ground daily. This is going on, not because people are "greedy" or "evil" or anything like that, it's the most basic of economic realities. It can no more be avoided than the tide can be stopped from coming in.
Now, the western world *does* have certain usable advantages, stable politics, the rule of law, business friendly climate... Or at least we *did*. When Obama chose to invalidate the GM secured bond-holders in favor of unsecured union contracts, the rule of law went out the window (there are actually several instances of this administration flagrantly violating the law for political reasons, but the GM bondholdrers is the poster-boy). The debt limit wrangle made it clear that or politics can no longer really be called "stable". And as for a business friendly climate, BWAHAHHAHAH!!1!!1 Not under this administration.
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Date: 2011-09-30 03:34 pm (UTC)Will you please tell me a few specifics about why you see the Obama administration as being hostile to business? Thanks!
I see the need to maintain land, air and water quality as essential for quality of life. That it makes industry less profitable is a worthwhile tradeoff.
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Date: 2011-10-01 04:27 pm (UTC)One of the central issues of our times is the realization that those "land, air and water quality" regulations don't make industry less profitable, they make it happen elsewhere. The choice isn't between having 2000 factories dirty, and 1900 factories operating cleanly, it's between having 2000 factories operating dirty here, and 2000 factories operating dirty in China. In the process, the rich will get richer, because they are who has the money to build factories in China. The poor will get poorer, because the jobs they used to work at will be in China. Our deficits will swell, because we have taken on the care of the poor at the governmental level. And in short, all the bad things will happen.
As for Obama being "anti-business", this article sums up my thought process pretty well.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/15/opinion/main5089982.shtml
It's not all-inclusive, but it gets the point across.
Then there is his rather profligate taxation.
http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-hikes-a6433
(not entirely fond of the format on that one, but the facts are factual)
Then there's his outright violation of court orders in pursuit of anti-business. For instance, the offshore drilling ban is still in force, costing the US economy billions of dollars that will never be made up. At the same time, he is giving loans to brazil for... offshore drilling. Loans that have no history of being paid back, incidentally. In what world does that make sense?
In fact, the US government is now officially in contempt of court.
www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-03/u-s-administration-in-contempt-over-gulf-drill-ban-judge-rules.html
Although the moratorium is lifted now.
I could go on. It is quite brutal being a small-business-person under this administration. The uncertainty and regulatory compliance burdens that he is imposing are quite unpleasant. Just for one example, in the PPACA, the "1099 requirement" would have been catastrophic for small business, having to send a 1099 to *every* company with which they did business would be ruinous. That got repealed, thankfully, but that was a year of uncertainty for every small business looking at that looming deadline that would push many small businesses out of the game.
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Date: 2011-10-01 08:39 pm (UTC)I find your assessment of the outcomes of environmental regulation to be simplistic. Yes, that is part of the truth, but certainly not the whole truth.
The outcome of leaner living could conceivably be increased life expectancy. Considering that America is dying of obesity and sedentary lifestyle.
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Date: 2011-10-02 02:36 am (UTC)Yes, I was oversimplifying somewhat on the regs. There's more to it, but, I didn't feel like typing up a giant wall-o-text on the intricacies of international trade.
It's true that we could use a little "toughening up" in terms of the diet and exercise. I do doubt that we'll get a longer life epectancy out of it, because in general, life expectancy and wealth are correlated nationally. Could conceivably be, but probably won't.
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Date: 2011-10-02 08:20 am (UTC)FWIW, I have enjoyed our disagreements. Your thought process is not without interest either. Although I do occasionally wonder if I'm a case study :P
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