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He recently said that an anti-abortion position is a libertarian position based on faith. Faith in what? The bogusness of global warming? HIS god? I am offended. Faith has no legitimacy as a basis for social law, because we don't all have faith in the same things. I had thought that Ron Paul was for the true and full separation of church and state, and that he could be counted on to keep them separate in his own dealings. He has just proven me wrong. The man I had thought was the last moral politician has fallen by the wayside. It all comes down to that same old debate about when life begins.

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/ron-paul-anti-abortion.html

Date: 2011-04-12 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liveonearth.livejournal.com
I think that Christ would not approve of the thing that bears his name today. And it is a shame that we cannot come to agreement within our society about exactly what life is, if we actually mean to protect it. But these are the thorny issues of our times...so we sit with them and hope that acceptance comes.

Date: 2011-04-13 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ford-prefect42.livejournal.com
I think, from what I have generally seen, that christ would be okay with most christians. Therea re a few loons, but the vast majority of the christians I have encountered are good sorts.


It is a shame that we can't come to an agreement, but then, it isn't like there is any actual room for compromise, both sides are quite intransigently entrenched.

Honestly, I would support "giving it to the states". I understand that some states would outlaw it, I'm okay with that. That is one of the primary founding concepts of the US, that the several states may do things differently and that's okay. If you want to have abortions, North Dakota is probably not the state you want to live in. Uncomplicated, reasonable, and allows everyone to have a community of similar-thinking individuals without binding anyone to their own way of thinking. But that doesn't seem to fly with much of anyone.

Date: 2011-04-13 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liveonearth.livejournal.com
I don't know. States rights, and letting states be various in their legal interpretation of federal mandates makes sense to me too. Then people could simply go where the enforced values suit them, and there would be less bitterness at all of us having to put up with some supposed federal consensus. The smaller a group, the easier it is to find a consensus....

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