Catholics Lose Debate to Hitchens and Fry

[liveonearth]

Here find five links to youtube to follow a brilliant debate on the proposition "The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world." The Intelligence Squared debaters include Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry against the proposition, and Archbishop Onaiyekan and Ann Widdecombe attempting to defend it. Hitchens and Fry utterly devastate the Catholics, and I was frankly cracking up.

Comments

[owl-clan.livejournal.com]

A superb debate! My only real complaint with it was that it was too short. It really is impossible to present such a complex issue and question with the needed background and perspectives (for or against) in 40 minutes.

I still thought what little real debate they had was fairly balanced. What this debate taught me is that what sways audiences in this world is the sexuality debate. The word "condom" is the key. I LOVE Stephen Fry- love that man to death. He was so well-spoken and humorous. I especially loved his point about who was obsessed with food.

I don't think the church got a truly fair chance to present the full extent and justification for its social teachings on Homosexuality (among others) but in the end, what difference would it have made? Its stance there is, in my opinion, ridiculous. And the justification for it is ridiculous.

[inibo.livejournal.com]

I'm not a member of the community where those links were posted, but I wanted to say it was almost embarrassing to watch. Hitchens I already knew of. Stephen Fry was new to me and, I'm sorry, he beat them mercilessly to a pulp. It was a wonderful thing to behold.